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Autor: | hook [ Do, 26.02.2015, 9:36 ] |
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Thanx for your interesting report of an "outsider" . You can call me an outsider too, as I'm from Ruhrgebiet. When we stayed in Sachsenkam near Bad Tölz some years ago I would have loved to ski Wallberg or Wendelstein, but snow condition were to bad at Wallberg and Wendelstein was not open. I could recommend you the Taubestein section of Spitzingsee resort as an "Old School Bavaria" experience. Maybe not so much freeride, but very old school. A report about the trip you can find here: http://alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=38594 |
Autor: | k2k [ Fr, 27.02.2015, 14:04 ] |
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Thanks for the trip report. I really enjoyed reading. I'm not sure if Bolsterlang/Hörnerbahn is exactly what you are looking for. The infrastructure is pretty modern with an 8-person gondola and a six-seater chairlift. Also, the main slopes are nearly 100% equipped with artificial snowmaking. If the snow conditions are good, the Skiroute Märchenwiese could be fun. I've only had the opportunity to ski it once when it was not officially open due to lack of snow. Also, you can use touring skis to climb the Riedberger Horn - an easy 1 hr hike from the top station of the Hörnerbahn. We did that some weeks ago and it was really nice. But when it comes to freeride or powder skiing, the ski area itself can't compete with the ones you've described in your report. |
Autor: | Ami in Berlin [ Mo, 02.03.2015, 20:50 ] |
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Thanks hook, k2k. I was starting to wonder if anybody was interested. I had a great two days at Hochgrat a week ago. Once I've sorted the photos I'll post a Chapter 2. Last weekend was Langlauf in the Rhön: also good. I was actually thinking about going to Bolsterlang next weekend if this week is as snowy as is forecast. I like modern lifts just as much as anybody else as long as the skiing is good, but will look at other options too. Is there anything interesting at Tegelberg? Or is it just the one piste with no variants? Allgäu is a shorter drive than Oberbayern, so likely will head in that direction.# Cheers |
Autor: | Breze [ Di, 03.03.2015, 20:36 ] |
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First of all also from my side, thank you for this report. k2k hat geschrieben: I'm not sure if Bolsterlang/Hörnerbahn is exactly what you are looking for. The infrastructure is pretty modern with an 8-person gondola and a six-seater chairlift. Also, the main slopes are nearly 100% equipped with artificial snowmaking. If the snow conditions are good, the Skiroute Märchenwiese could be fun. I've only had the opportunity to ski it once when it was not officially open due to lack of snow. Also, you can use touring skis to climb the Riedberger Horn - an easy 1 hr hike from the top station of the Hörnerbahn. We did that some weeks ago and it was really nice. But when it comes to freeride or powder skiing, the ski area itself can't compete with the ones you've described in your report. Bolsterlang indeed is not a classic freeride domain where you will head towards on big bluebird days after a dump. And on weekends with good weather slopes can become crowded (because of the modern infrastructure). But it's well known by locals for it's nice tree skiing opportunities (as long as you know where you have to go), and therefore a great location on days with "bad" weather (where "bad" means, intense snowfall and bad visibilty). So if you like (deep)powder skiing between trees, Bolsterlang is definetly worth a trip on whiteout days... You can find some pictures of Bolsterlang from one of those powder days (27.01.2015) (and some more pictures of my skiing season, e.g. at the Hochgrat) in the following facebook album: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.823492087671064.1073741827.100000308402968&type=1&l=a1cbe30a1d |
Autor: | Ami in Berlin [ Mo, 06.04.2015, 15:15 ] |
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Thanks for all the feedback. My ski season wrapped up yesterday (in Kleinwalsertal), so I've written a Chapter 2 with Hochgrat, Wendelstein (again), and Sudelfeld. I hope next winter is as good as this one has been. reportagen-f8/old-school-bavaria-chapter-2-t3277.html |
Autor: | hook [ Mi, 22.04.2015, 12:57 ] |
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hook hat geschrieben: ... I could recommend you the Taubestein section of Spitzingsee resort as an "Old School Bavaria" experience. Maybe not so much freeride, but very old school... Taubenstein went LSAP end of this season - too sad. Gondola lift will be operating in the summer season though. Link |
Autor: | Ami in Berlin [ Sa, 25.04.2015, 11:57 ] |
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Ah crap. I meant to go there for a day this winter, but some locals talked me in to going to Sudelfeld instead. I was looking forward to trying it next winter. I don't know the lay of the land, but would it make sense to keep running the gondola during the winter and not the T-bars? If they didn't groom it could you ski laps off the gondola? Basically operate it like the Laberbahn? Or at least run it during the holidays in the winter, like the Wankbahn? And a side note, what is the deal with tourers skinning right up pistes? In America the whole point of touring is to get away from ski resorts, but in Germany I see more people skinning up then skiing down. I don't understand it. |
Autor: | hook [ Mi, 06.05.2015, 9:13 ] |
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Ami in Berlin hat geschrieben: I don't know the lay of the land, but would it make sense to keep running the gondola during the winter and not the T-bars? If they didn't groom it could you ski laps off the gondola? Basically operate it like the Laberbahn? Or at least run it during the holidays in the winter, like the Wankbahn? In the last seasons Taubenstein was open only on weekends and in Xmas and Fasching holidays. Despite this "savings program" Taubenstein still was a deficit area. According to rumors I heard (on alpinform mainly) the gondola is the problem. A lot personal is needed to operate it. Also there are two owners at Taubenstein: Gondola, Lochgrabenlift and Rauhkopflift are operated by Alpenbahnen Spitzingsee (that also own more than half of the other side of Spitzing - Stümpfling, Sutten, Roßkopf, I think Valepper Alm Lift). The other two T-bars at Taubenstein are operated by Obere Maxlraineralm (OMA), a family driven company ("Familienunternehmen"). Now Alpenbahnen cut off OMA from the rest of the ski area. Access to OMA T-bars is not possible without Gondola. I you like to go further into details, read threads over at Alpinforum regarding Spitzing, Taubenstein etc. Here is a swan song from user "Taubenstein" (sic!) over at Alpinforum: R.I.P. Taubenstein - Mein Hausberg - 14/15 Ami in Berlin hat geschrieben: And a side note, what is the deal with tourers skinning right up pistes? In America the whole point of touring is to get away from ski resorts, but in Germany I see more people skinning up then skiing down. I don't understand it. This is another (sometimes conflicting) discussion, e.g. here and over at Alpinforum. Touring ski becomes more and more fashionable. But (a big part of that) people fear avalanches and/or aren't good skiers. I observed a lot of locals skinning up after work in the afternoon for fitness reasons I would imagine: Jogging is difficult in the winter. And skinning up offers a reward: A downhill run. That is better done on a groomed slope when it's getting dark already... |
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